Kreinik Boys Photos

Herb Kreinik shared these images on 14 June 2020:

DJ: At first Ida thought that the youngest boy was her father Marcus Lazer. But the dates belie that call.

Herb:

Here are copies of both “Kreinik Bros & Rauch” photo post cards, front and back. The earlier print is labelled Pix “A” (front and back); the later print is labelled Pix “B” (front and back).

Note that both prints (undated) were made at the Victoria Photo Shop, #57 2nd Ave, NYC.

Also attached are scans of two clippings to show what Morris looked like in 1921 and 1922.  So I think the prints of the “Bros” were from the early 1920’s (in NYC).

I suspect that Andrew Kreinik may have more info on Messr Rauch, though I don’t have his email address.

Art and Ida, 14 Jun 2020:

Hello and thank you for this very valuable additional information. I will denote 4 items that may help us better define the issues . 1] Marcus did not arrive in the USA until 1953 therefore the man in Pix A that Ida initially said was her Dad could not in fact be so if that photo was taken in NYC in 1921-1922.; 2] Ida also surprised that the 2 men [right side ] in Pix A that she thinks are Morris and Manny were in NYC in 1921-1922. She believed that they were still in Poland at that time. ; 3] Ida only recognizes Manny and Morris in Pix B. ; 4]Ida would like to know if Herb could tell us what year Manny and Morris came to USA.;   

Morris arrived in 1912 and Manny in 1920.

New York, Naturalization Petitions, 1794-1906

Name: Morris Kreinik

Record Type: Petition

Birth Date: 12 Mar 1897

Birth Place: Galicia, Austria

Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1912

Arrival Place: New York

Petition Place: New York, USA

Petition Number: 127480

Name: Manny Kreinik

Petition Age: 22

Record Type: Petition

Birth Date: 21 May 1904

Birth Place: Sedzizzow Poland (Austria)

Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1920

Arrival Place:New York, New York

Petition Date: 11 Oct 1926

Petition Place: New York, USA

Is it possible that Rauch is Harry Hirsch Rauch

Born 17 Dec 1904 in Poland

Death 2 Jul 1998, Old Bridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, USA

He married Cousin Sylvia Cypra Sarah Sternlicht in 1941;

Their daughter Roberta Rauch might be able to identify her father.

I just re-read a message from Stanley Kreinik from Aug 18 2013: "Hi David, I just got off the phone with Roberta Fachler. She is the daughter of Harry Rauch and Sylvia Sternlicht. Harry was a cousin whose mother was a Kreinik. Roberta has a twin brother I think his name is David. Harry, had two sisters, one was married to a Teddy Schtierber (Stieber -- Ruth Kreinik) (I'm not sure of the spelling) I told Roberta that you would get in touch with her. Her E -Mail address is facltf@juno.com Roberta is 69 and her husband is 70. She will give you a lot of info. She is the granddaughter of Chaim and Eva Sternlicht. I hope this will help you with some new info. Be well Stanley"

That would mean that Barney Rauch's wife was Anna Kreinik. Here is her Naturalization Paper.

Family Connections

I have been entering stories from Leah Kreinick Jacobowitz's memoir into Geni profiles for the people she discusses. Sometimes I can figure out the dates from her writing, but she is more interested in the emotional experience and the family ties than in the dates, The places are touchpoints for feelings.

There are a couple of relatives also on Geni who have more complete records or memories. Together we are putting together a pretty good family structure and history.