Kreinik Boys Photos

Herb Kreinik shared these images on 14 June 2020:

DJ: At first Ida thought that the youngest boy was her father Marcus Lazer. But the dates belie that call.

Herb:

Here are copies of both “Kreinik Bros & Rauch” photo post cards, front and back. The earlier print is labelled Pix “A” (front and back); the later print is labelled Pix “B” (front and back).

Note that both prints (undated) were made at the Victoria Photo Shop, #57 2nd Ave, NYC.

Also attached are scans of two clippings to show what Morris looked like in 1921 and 1922.  So I think the prints of the “Bros” were from the early 1920’s (in NYC).

I suspect that Andrew Kreinik may have more info on Messr Rauch, though I don’t have his email address.

Art and Ida, 14 Jun 2020:

Hello and thank you for this very valuable additional information. I will denote 4 items that may help us better define the issues . 1] Marcus did not arrive in the USA until 1953 therefore the man in Pix A that Ida initially said was her Dad could not in fact be so if that photo was taken in NYC in 1921-1922.; 2] Ida also surprised that the 2 men [right side ] in Pix A that she thinks are Morris and Manny were in NYC in 1921-1922. She believed that they were still in Poland at that time. ; 3] Ida only recognizes Manny and Morris in Pix B. ; 4]Ida would like to know if Herb could tell us what year Manny and Morris came to USA.;   

Morris arrived in 1912 and Manny in 1920.

New York, Naturalization Petitions, 1794-1906

Name: Morris Kreinik

Record Type: Petition

Birth Date: 12 Mar 1897

Birth Place: Galicia, Austria

Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1912

Arrival Place: New York

Petition Place: New York, USA

Petition Number: 127480

Name: Manny Kreinik

Petition Age: 22

Record Type: Petition

Birth Date: 21 May 1904

Birth Place: Sedzizzow Poland (Austria)

Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1920

Arrival Place:New York, New York

Petition Date: 11 Oct 1926

Petition Place: New York, USA

Is it possible that Rauch is Harry Hirsch Rauch

Born 17 Dec 1904 in Poland

Death 2 Jul 1998, Old Bridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, USA

He married Cousin Sylvia Cypra Sarah Sternlicht in 1941;

Their daughter Roberta Rauch might be able to identify her father.

I just re-read a message from Stanley Kreinik from Aug 18 2013: "Hi David, I just got off the phone with Roberta Fachler. She is the daughter of Harry Rauch and Sylvia Sternlicht. Harry was a cousin whose mother was a Kreinik. Roberta has a twin brother I think his name is David. Harry, had two sisters, one was married to a Teddy Schtierber (Stieber -- Ruth Kreinik) (I'm not sure of the spelling) I told Roberta that you would get in touch with her. Her E -Mail address is facltf@juno.com Roberta is 69 and her husband is 70. She will give you a lot of info. She is the granddaughter of Chaim and Eva Sternlicht. I hope this will help you with some new info. Be well Stanley"

That would mean that Barney Rauch's wife was Anna Kreinik. Here is her Naturalization Paper.